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Judith Butler’s engagement with psychoanalysis

This is a really interesting two part interview with Judith Butler on their engagement with psychoanalysis, starting from being sent to a therapist by homophobic parents as a teenager:

I particularly appreciated this discussion of how stifling the dichotomy of surface reading vs hermeneutics of suspicion is, which feels like finally hearing someone say something I’ve struggled to articulate for years:

You don’t have to believe in a hermeneutics of suspicion to believe that not everything is immediately clear and on the surface. The surface is rippled, the surface has got fissures. I think of those Edward Hopper pictures where it’s just a set of doorways, but there’s a darkness in each open doorway. That enigmatic darkness is coming out into the light of day in the most quotidian fashion … it’s not like the key to the surface is behind it. The entire surface, the entire depth, is on the surface and in the depth. Both are true.

Source: https://philipkochpaintings.blogspot.com/2014/04/telling-truth-with-little-lies-two.html
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